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oh, okey then i got it right,
the etomolgy defination got me offtrack ,
perhaps to much of a computer for today :p

Carefully smart is a good definition of prudent, yes.

just training for isreal u know :p

i did not offend, insult you with my arrogance?

by sound

sounds this word like "carefully smart" or something

this is the time when once using a word that have not been looking up and mistake comeslike this,
was so trusting the system, that so simple word they would only translate to the better

kind of

the version of conservatism, in estonia is meant the one who sees ahead, the one who knows how to be smart in present and so it would be good in future,

so what is this word really meniang ?

or not.. man even nt understanding the explenation:



imprudent (adj.) Look up imprudent at Dictionary.com
late 14c., from Latin imprudentem (nominative imprudens) "not foreseeing, unaware, inconsiderate, heedless," from assimilated form of in- "not, opposite of" (see in- (1)) + prudens, contraction of providens, present participle of providere "to provide," literally "to see before (one)" (see provide). Related: Imprudently.

how they end up with a simple word Konservatiivsus, that is even sounding like Conservatism, and end up with this word,
looks like sabotage :D

jesus crist, this gives opposite menaing to entire talk,

just looked up from etomology, seems not

oh they translated it kind of differentthen i thought, the word is "Conservativism"
i thought " imprudent " is nicer, more royal version of that

But you are asking me to be imprudent

(mind body development as whole)

(development is also word in estonia, for human mind development)

"Prudence is a prerequisite for development"

first 2 videos in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWAZN1exLms&list=PLsXelNZnKcxndEjc58_GUi9ftCxcreX5c

and Sheis good as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
if i get finished before i get translatio nto you, then let soeone translate it to you, these i assume you agree

and me also

(i mean, i might have get a finance from this work i should have done, to keep my internet open, ephazising the importance.. ...this is what i just represent as care example)

but i got one great old one, i wana share with u , just i will try to get translatio nto it

(but at times harder to realize as it looks cofortable and safe and nice and polite)

(i should have instale,d help to fix one of my friend 2 internet shop funbox.ee and another one.. but just thought, this is more important here, even if that mooved a bit of your great mind (that as most minds, is in similar trap, but i assume it is still safe trap , better then the hatered ones or fear ones))

( Roger )

: )

is good

and then do if it does not look damaging to a mission what you live for, then most likelly it is better

and look what survives better the time..
also it can be as a bit of sales and news pich even :p
(later ones i can also help to think out.. )

so yea thisis my recocmendations, and as we are as we are, we can do with that what we can, but good is enought if we thinkabout it

i think it is legal to do it

(or biography or truestory or memoare... or what else genres is the under category that can be taken seriuslly in all cultures, wiht out prejustice)

Bill Hicks, Carlin ...
in a way a bit Luic CK and Chriss Rock also
say how it is, in humor, but peoplewho lissen them mostly understnd, that it is not meant as joke, but as telling how is and what to think and how to think about what

the some ciFy wersions also perhaps do that... not sure how you write... just they lock the Ci-Fi gendre in to mindset, that it is "this kind..."
eliminating and devaluing the inside, and even making sure it can not be adobted in to general thinking seriouslly..

what you can do for example, is to give out 2 books, Same books, just one is inder CiFi another one is under Docmentary

take manhood to that,
to say not in humor way... ironic way.. even not so much hidden way... but true way. what You know , that otherswho are smart and know you also know, and agree
And top of that what all these smart ones, who they respect agree (and is it right)

so yes.. the sientlogy.. try not to take safe option... safe road.. scify..
but trey to write a True Book

and we our self are to blame as we had all the reoads open to tell them how is better, but instead we told them, "just work wiht yourself only.. (with no end or instruction what to do whn you get htere)"

anfter that is so perfect, people it self will not need to take a part of it

it seems to me

and they will not make this kind of mistakes what was done in past...
as now will be final time, they can do it so ... liberal way... wiht peole them self..

up to pint when is to late, and this is great'e for them, as it secures their position to be leader and choose what to keep and how

but we not car eabout their plans... so we cluless whatthey do and plan

but the thing is .. they make a plan.. about our plans...

i want to get to really to isreal, to tell Jewish... to get their act togheder now..

or the CIA... or praise even the Muslim Brotherhood or the . .well the grand fathers of all,.. roman empire master moon shild communists

giving us example what todo and what not to

respect for them as they do, not a correct thing probabaly but they do

and do not write in SciFi gendre...
unles u plan to be like the scientlogy guy who has plans strong likethat... or even Doom a bit or harry poter... but they still not as real as the Scinetology...
or the Urantia Book people

(you see, it is figured out, )

it is the fastest, most effectiveway

and hope they will in return do same to get us better

actionabout beliving, that we haveright to say others how to be

if all do it, just a bit, it is big inpact

not as true, as the one who gets, will get bitter taste as well.. for the giver not enjoing to much,
but yes, my point is that we need to turn just one notch up the action

but yea, generally i do, as much in a way, i like, for helping, as only way to help best is to enjoy work as well, or it is not true

well, if there would be no problem, then we would not need to help and do what we can something else then what we would do when everything would be done

Good. Then no problem.

Yes

I'm doing what I can at present to help people. You can believe me or not. I am doing what I can to help things. Are you?

andthen they wonder how trump wins :D

perfect for the system

and best lies, illusions are the ones that are impleneted in all places, so some thing all agre.. all agree, not to do anything

too may,

and if will try.. will look as crazy or funy at best nad then another level doctors can be called to eliminate the threat (whostil lcan not protect it self as trabbed by the billow.. net of people around who one self lowes and can not hit anyway, and to many anyway)

and training most hardcore masters in unimaginable way, all skill is in vain... as ninja is trapped in situation where can not do nothing besoides get it self dired

and this is how system has made a system that is self protecting the system by the ones who are inprisoned by the system and if the ones who are guards start to become to awake or some slawes then the most common and most self good thinking ones,are used, to make sure, that chnmage will not came or not allowed to make... in so soft and nice way,,,as if you would trap most deadly ninja in to between massive billows and just smile next to it...

but nearly ALL systenms, from communism, to lutheralism, to jogas to wiccas to self help people you name it.. are in to same common prison ideology about what narrows down to same fundamental idea: Help self first, ("then you become smart enought... some day")
(but day newer comes and if someone dares to say this day has coe to him then he will be attaced by zombi army teelling "hey start first from yourself..." )

and if that is not helping the another one will be taken up by front liners "hey no one has right to tell others to..."

in combination, of side supporters telling "well there is no good or bad it is relative... it means how you look it and who is looking it...bla bla"

(and this practice is called feelings, caring)

(so do not get in to sate,where you start to feel so, as human,man who knows its place, can not get offended, ... you can only get offended if someone is offending others, around you)

self()

and this gets people offencive, shwing again, that ... when we get bothered of offended, then clearly things have not figured out about delf

innit?

i assume and say things about the practice, and the culture, and mindsets,
you identify yourself with it,
And feel as it is about you

you assuming the general practice of joga and liberal culture or mindset is part of you ,and you identify yourself with it,
as i telling, states fell good, when people feel good then good ideas come and it is healthy in many ways, but .. problem is that as long prison ideology is in head, about not puting it on to action directly enforsing it to other people who are wrong, if needed, then it is becoming like smking cannabis, enjoiment, adiction , self onanation, self delusion and self enjoiment again in the end, and then comapring each other enjoiments between other's who practice same

As I said, you are assuming too many things about me. I am always thinking about these things.
You are mistaken about my bliss states being essentially worthless.

and what i was mistaking about?

and no need to go up and down then

thiswould be worth something more, then when others are in bliss, they will get you in to blissanyway

but to get others to a bliss

if the aim is not to get to bliss

but fruitless it is for most comparing to the effect it would have, if they would turn that in to action

joga also

yes i know

yjews are in bliss, to be productive

You are entirely incorrect. It does feel good though.

just feels good

fruitless

yes but it is like jacking off

It always returns

and thse yogamasters, they get in to bliss but forget the point why they was doing it

Not a problem

well yes this is problem with yoga

Losing personal identity in "bliss states"

like mad way, or like fog head way

well, how yu mean, loosing yourself..

just nearly all the spirtual and liberal intelecutal field of information, is filled with a prison ideology about "do nothing to chage status goa... if .. if you really need to .. then littl.e.. secretly.. and for your self or near ones only.. at best..."

or another one, for full grazy oes, they send another anarchy extremes, to go and throw gaz botttles in to office, liekthat would help ((well, sometimes, if planned well)

I can lose myself in an instant. Years of practice. But I'm still here when I return.

You are assuming too much about me, I think

to be .. you already have been and are

people at 20's, working up, to build up a self

so you have to work really hard to loose your self

You was like 70 right

well, is not like Your self can get lost

not fight with it or feel shame of it, we should tell how to be to others, this is our job, and belessed them be if they returnthe favor

Ok good. I have already answered a lot of these questions. If the self is not taken care of it is not much use to others. I can do both at once.

just you have to accept it

we can, you do alrady

this is only way i know how to influence you in to better thoughts, away from "we can not .. .should not... only self first.."

i am

Then hear what I'm saying

tryto get smarter ones making smarter desisions

Talking to you

What are YOU doing to help the world? Maybe figure that out first m

and maybe even species

and female,

and world

this is basic first block, and also to our country

yes, we should be

I'm not hiding it. I am important to my family

"i can not help a world as i am so important... to someones.. who can not handle life if i am gone.."

again, hidden self importance :p

it is like you assume, they can not live with out you.. millins of peopel can, but not them.

Haha, you're funny.
They are already being dragged along...

on to journey

take them as well

ofcourse you can

As I said, I am doing what I am able to do at present. I am working on a novel that will address many of your points in fictional form. I have family responsibilities and can't just drop them to be a crusader for world peace.

so this can be bring back to the ones, with self relaization, and tell how they work inside

to figure out the bad ones

and taliban way is also, by learing how to go in to some organiztion, as team, and then learn this world inside... sacrifising ones life.. to grow strawberies, and spend time in office

and soetimes, maybe some one needs to go full taliban on some place, that can be taken down like that only..

just some times, we have to step back few steps. from crazis, when we would wanna swing at them.... but some times perhaps we have to, when we can

realazing i menat

who ever was ready more then just beliving , that it is YOUR world and YOUR resposibility as well

more safer to let others do it.. some other time...
excuse our self out.. as "we not ready.. i do not have to..."

this is why maybe someone slowing it down as they not know hat comes then :p

and maybe will not be after this is done

well, it is not a illusion in my book, it is elementary order, reason to be, and reason at all why man was and is

or not?

I'm doing it as well as I can. I only know a little, but I share what I know. I have published books that may help some people. I strive to be honest and helpful, but I have no illusions about being able to bring about world peace.

(who also want after self to help others)

and share between these peole this info who we think needs and is interested about same kind of idea

and to who to talk and how

what we do theoretically and with what tools, once we know what to do

i mena, that we should prepare, at same time, plan also

(maybe)

in mass scale

and want to share , or help a next person

as a first man who figured it out, who is self knowing

got like 30 years or so, maybe less, to get it out ther,e what will you do ?

lets say you by some simple miracle, start to make sense tomorrow, all figured out, final piecethat fits all in,
so now youknow this part, what you searching for.

so now, what is the plan.. have you prepared to, what to do next, about others

well. this is the mistake here budy, that.... it is correct but not enoughtm it is half way, as there is no time line,when you start to making sense of things and How you start to deal with others then

greek-roman mind thinks competiotion but they integrate cooperation in to it, partly, so this is why they have head start ad sucess in many ways

Governments thrive on confusion and disinformation. My job is to try to make sense of things, for myself, then others.

i assume coooeraton

what you think.. competition or cooperaton.. what is more powerful force in nature

but if we all start to look eachother..

and it is like inventing bysycle 6 billion times, ever .. half a century and more and more double work.. in some way looking

as we only look in to ourself.. and this is slow protcess

and well. how knowing yourself has worked out for yu.. getting in to some finsih linejet, with next 30 years peraps ? And can you then forward this knowledge to give head start to next one... or will your knowledge you give,,, ebven if u manage... to spped up evolutoon... will be just burned, as illegal.. ?

and that is...

Of course,mane that is our primary job. We can't help others when we don't even know who we are.

is that not selfish, to imporve yourself

I would love to see things fixed for the better. But bad people are in control, and the press is obedient and not interested in the truth to a large degree. I have no agenda other than to be a good person and always trying to improve myself. Trying to figure it all out will drive you insane. It's people acting badly, nothing more. But that is more than enough.

"30 yeas and big one ..."

as thye do every 30 years mand gig one every now and then .. when was the roman empire cloesed... 200 years ago, after frensh revolutiion, when democrazy was bring to us as new low and order?

or maybe part of opertunity, as they are about to chnage the pupetmasters

and more exposed aswell, but this might be part of game

i mean.. i seen kind, of, that delusional peole become smarter, softer, clever...

or have you seen a trend that delusional people starting to give up massivly with slogans like "okey we give up, to muhc money we got and to much power. .here people .. take it back.. "

if any kind of rational method becomes bothersome

as it is not like delusional people get more stupiter.. they working hard, to hire people, blackmail or train or trick .. or hypnoze the ones who wil lthink out for them, howto eliminate all... even mediations if needed in fututre

then we should ask, one time more, is it the best option really

and when delusional people sing something, that secures their status qoa.. at least not challange it (even as keeping our self rational, that has not been rising trend in last 100 years as you imagine, ... even ifthat is challenging to them if we rational. it is not a trherat.. as ratinal people do as law tels..)

i think they would sing it

wel yea but just one question, what you think, the delusional people, upthere, do they agree with you, support you agenda and mindset like this,
truth like that, that it is unfixable, hard and people should just try to say sane and rational.. but not try to think to much over how to fix the "unfixable" ?

misled, not mid died

It is a very hard problem to fix, because largely delusional people are in control of governments. All we can do is try to stay sane and rational. Learn meditation to calm your mind. It may take a huge catastrophe to wake up humanity. Right now the politicians and the media have everyone confused,mid died, and angry at the wrong people.

for sure, even if it is just a 3 things
and 7 instruction, that would make massive change from starters
as so many things narrow down to a some root couses, or combination of things that come from same root couse (but not directly, but from the various combinatin of original birth)

is there somethings for sure, you know that Humans do that is evil, or bad, that have to be stopped and rooted out, that if done, the correction program have to be initiated, with no question if doing was knowingly planned so or done in full bad intention
(lets add to a option, that we got a plant, that can make human to tell truth for sure)

I mean, as it is not so much of a belief, that there is nothing to belive,
but more of a knwoing

so if this would be a program, to root out the evil doers,
by letting people know, that it is people,
who do it, and that who do it are not normal (or lesser of intelligence about what is good things to do)
.. and here is instructions what is NOT allowed to do, for sure, and here is things if done, that have to be corrected This way
and anotherthings that best is to correct That way but, can be any other way BUT.
And perhaps some things that can be or can be not fixed in any means anyone pleases,

would you help to get that singed,
as a global effort,
to S&D (seach and destroy) that what allows not good human behavior to become reallity

this kind of paper, from UN; backed by all the billionaires with their full donation, would you be so sure on that, earthly effort,that would initiate the starting signature?

so when yoggis say, and natives, that they can communicate,with each other, in another realm, is that real or is that a bolloc?

or was there things that for sure was not real 500 years ago, even when someone come back from time travel, but what is normal knowing today, like TV siganl etc

is there some species of ants, who work against other species?

but, so they humans work against each other, becouse lack of intelligence, and becouse of illness in a mind,
... so it should be easy to fix then?

(mayube)

or how you will disagree with previous

wil get to gookssome days, still getting a bit smarter first before books.. as in a way, whatever you read first will more influence about what You think and agree with later

Well okey i can see usefulness of that thinking, sounds like rational old timers, who actually got things done in most part starting from things that are known to be real and getting done things that was known to be needed to get done in a way that works

Find a copy of the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali, and see what the ancient yogis had to say about human consciousness.

I think only humans can work for or against other humans. We are able to believe almost anything, and this is a problem for some people. I have a difficult enough time believing what I KNOW to be true, without trying to believe impossible things.

and that humans do it them self, for no reason besides confusin,lesser inteligecet

but yes so You asume,there most likelly, or for sure, is no force besides humans , who work against humans?

a filler

3 minutes intro here for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cghg-QyTP_M

No

have You seen the movie Rubber?

i also made agreement with god as i want to see no spirits or UFO's as hones t person when someone would ask that from me in jeperdasing situation, then i would have to say i have seen this andthat.. and this would nto look so normal.. so better not to see

No reason, merely confusion

i see and for what reason we do that

We trick ourselves into believing that there are spirits that can effect us. I don't believe it.

or to leave information "out there" that our mind picks up and puts togheder in a way that it seems self idea, and is daminging?

makes sense, but can spirits trick us to use our mind against us ?

i see, i like that additude

I don't think there are spirits that can harm us. Our own minds do it.

Yes, but I dislike talking on the phone. I'm just clumsy with my thumbs

for meat

or another use perhaps is to fool spirits that you got another kind of armour

one day ya will make real call to me, ya keep warming up !

i mean less strangewould be when i would start to eat cat food,
well, peraps not as i try to keep vegetarian, as thinking the meat is not a bestthing to take in for so many reasons,

only for repairing cells after damaging spiritual warfare perhaps at times

Accidental call, disregard

You missed a video chat with Clark.

with apple

talking about telepathic catswho can chage molecular structure in tie space so wepons some can not work so well,
my own cant in home, (one old homeless cat who come to share living place with me) is getting stranger and stranger

managed after some effort get to her another cat food as last one she did not eat and this one is like all "added no preservatives or sugar" (no idea they added sugar to other cat foods!)
and she still prefered my potatoes and macarones i just made

aple generally can go anywhere.. with macrones.. pancakes.. tea.. :p

even with no solts

discovered while no resource,sthat potatosand apples, in cubes, small cubes 1 cm max, is good togheder

what is the erowid article url agian.. as it just open https://erowid.org/library/books/magic_mushrooms-heinrich.shtml ... okey i can find a later, as my food is cooking :p

u take these things as real thing or just something in personal head?
or as real thing, tec, that u can access placesand learn new ?

generally i understood that our spirit, mind is chnaging fro one cneter to naother oe and the last one then drops on the floor, as they are unblugged, so this why i learned on heavy dosages to say in bed or in places where falling is no a propblem... also mooving back and fourth in time is weid one.. as being in same place third time... then up then front.. wel...
but yea, i think the blood thing was kind of reminder they left for me to remeber, that it is also a real, not just " a trip"

Yes this is what i would havethought, but entire house was , room was in second floor,entire bottom floor what all white, .. no trops on clothing nor in a beard... nowhere, not in a sink or bathrom as maybe i wahsed my self or something,

i mena.. can understand all that thing..

but there should be some marks.. in püsical world as i knowhow much blood should have come if nose is busted liekthat..
but allwas like cleaned up.. and looked as it was busted pretty longer time ago..
--

What is the article name in FB ?

Amanita can be a dissociative, meaning that you may not know what your body is actually doing in the physical reality. People can hurt themselves. Sometimes people go running wildly through the forest, running into things and getting hurt. Often they don't remember what happened. I always use dried, MATURE caps, and eat it slowly, a little at a time, so I can judge the effects. The drug website erowid.org has an article I wrote, Amanita
muscaria preparation for beginners.
You are not a beginner, but you may find it interesting. My book has much more information, of course

in fact in one of the beating i got, i had most weird outcome, the blood was in my nose, and my libs was busted, and mark also on my nose like a mark as osmeone hit with a ring...
and mark on face, so .. i made picture of that.. as strange was. .as there was no blod in room.. but 2 sides of nose was filled with tried up blood, as u knowwhen u bust ur nose proper... and no where in house was besides one small drop in one place.. but .. yea that was strange, it was on 6'th day i think full tripping

just few words about my personal thing more, to get it out of way and off the chest,

" But my mother is from the Hr negative universal blood line and father is from aristocrate, some kind grand child, but for some reason no one is interested to reveal the history tree and as i am the most black sheep, total emparishment even for the boorest of all sides of my poor side of family (mother) and the intelecual side of family.. so no one is really in to talking about thesethings seriouslly about me..
.. they are on border that i am something between retarded and a druggie bumb,
but same time in purpose i do my best to keep in contact in all levels whit anyone i can, so they would have more easy time to restore relationship when time comes and i happen to become alright.
Last thing i need that when i become alright and then out of shame again no one is in contact, this owuld be double fail ."

there was also rgreat deal of me being a hybrid cat kind of freek thing under investigation when telepatically i try to rearangethings so atomic blasts would not happen and under elimination by a moder as a freak kind of thing as "this cat is talking, not normal.." ..
bt you know some things on anamita is weirdly real feeling, not kind of things u see "oh, this is just not real.."
but it has kind of this blood taste to it and weird simple seriousness

nope

It's probably about one of the poisonous amanitas that kill a person over a period of several days.
Have you seen my book about all this? The book has a Facebook page, Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy

i was like shoked more about her answer then the trip :d

she told me with dead serious face and voice, as She know exactly what i takabout " 3 days, if you are lucky"

and u know my mother is totally not in to any of this,
and i told this story to a mother

and for complete suprice

have some sure places You figured out..
...the old Estonian like gray beards told me in one place, after un explainable horrors and disturbing things i had to witnesh, and take part of if i wantto releave others pain and suffering... ... they told me a joke.. joke was part of a trip, and in the end of the trip they toldme "if you tell thatto anyone, then you got 3 days to live"

i wish someone would give platform for me to managethat.. just newer get so far .. but will keep tring...

You as old knower.. have yu fugured the red one out, is it .. like access to places, that run that world, and ability to soul travel in to others as a spirit?

And what is up wiith these gov high up strange soviet like factory's i end up attimes,

have you managed the ultimate jet, the Blue + red togheder?

I newer seen anyone with so big % of amanita pictures,
as You have for profile,
great find,

is like someone is spreading least effective way to use and least right ones (no wonder)

where this insane idea to some come, that they mix it with vdka, or even the one, that they smoke... a mushrooms..
ever seen point in that?

well if someone make soup.. or worst, tea.. then i guess it is not something someone will like at first.. but yes, cooked in butter .. .maybe just a bit of the orange salt top of it if fresh ones... man... mja

I've heard that they are delicious cooked. MSG was isolated from Amanita species...

and also amazingly good is to fry them with a butter directly, after try or as fresh, ... man ... this is one tasty thing...
it was so good it was ubelivable

yes, fres is not so good,
i took most of them in sauna one other pucked full and dry them with one go in one sauna trip... and then eat one full week

So many amanitas! And you eat them fresh! I stopped doing that once I learned about drying them first. Fresh ones make me nauseated.

if ya skip to minute 7, me tripping with cats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl : )

(i just try to unravel now the idea of Creator and idea as having this as just an idea and why it is even then important)

sader jet,
(the last sentence ending,)
if there would not be so
or maybe less meaningful then right now
, have to take time period to meditate on it

(but as much i seen in dreams, self life and trips, and in feeling and in thinking, reading, this little i have done all of it: there is).

at least in the level, what
" Proverbs 8 " reveals. (She, female spirit, as the one, planning with Creator, before making Us, i read meaning, hint from it)

The most atheistic way i feel about beliving and hope (at times when i would feel nothing at all) or giving someone the reason,
is that it is need for human survival (collective psychological benefit in conflic resolving etc)
to feel, to know this higher ideal, hope for protection and positive landing, higher example to live by and agree on that "this is few things that are good for sure"
(, so Good that no need to ruin it by wondering "if there Really is and how.." ... )

to activate self protection, self power and to find way to our mission in life in easy way.

Also important to keep us on ground and not thinking overly bigger then needed about our self, so we would remin safe for others.
(ofcourse just the knowing that there is something higher has not stop some leaders to go insane in bad way over others.. or sometimes the knowing thatthere is, have helped someones to rise and become not better in mind perhaps as well... but for me in these cases, is left to asume, from my point of view, that they could not be actually the real belivers, as how would they be, if they did so, then they missed whole point, OR they was used, by It or by some other forces, to be so impossible, to act so impossible way, for our education or by some mistake or ... well, .... here the mind will go again finding excuses... )

(but would wonder, if there would be no religion, creator consept,
would there still be people, who "trip hard" and start to think they or someone have something to do with everyones else creation?)
(like the ones rare times running aroundwith creator complex or even feeling like that longer time..).
I again think, the reason was a to little of a right kind of drug they took, thatwould have shakethem back to their place... Ibogaine or red mushroom or something likethat they perhaps would have needed..

As even acient clutures, i guess all have some kind of understanding about someone making or above.
So hard to find i guess anyone who would not be "condaminated" by this idea, unless we make a scientific test, to grow people, one village up from child on, in a way that newer is mentined that these kind of things are ever talked about, ... and then see what they see and think when they trip hard on various drugs on varios ages ...

and is there a difference from what kind of DNA they coming from...
... i would have guess communists long time ago have done tests like that... but ofcourse, if results was positive, for feeling that there is maker.. these results would newer surfface... and as this can not be done fullyin my own life span (even if this "test", project would be FDA approved..), then i guess answers will remin unknown,

but yes, would be imprtant thing to do.. among all the other tests they have run on people.. this owuld seen noble one..

(but it might be still hard to do, as maybethe ones running a project, would still contaminate the project with their own thoughts near by, ... if humans can pick up information like that perhaps..)

anyway this short thing i planned to say becomes meter long again.

// will try to rapit up.

I see (safe to assume) "She" who loves us
as a doorstep, the "most nearest we can get" to in real life, to enter to serving the most highest "correct direction" with final correct point.

// the "quatation marks" are not needed here but just added to make my hard to read text a little bit more easy to seperate.//


But i guess it is hard to know for sure if creator (even if the one or specie who made us is not the final maker of everything else, maybe just our worlds) even wants us to talk about god or instead Do and Feel what is needed.

i gues this is how old Estoninas was, by feeling what i have got from trips.

if strong trips of many kind, have only strenghten my feeling about this (that there is something to humble to),
so so... still makes me super interested about people who have had more trips jet, and feel there is no need to think or feel like that. That in their fact there is nothing to hope for or no one to serve but our self.
So this is really interesting for me (besides having answers why creator would make humans, or angels alikes among us who feel so, (angel: someone whos original point was not to be a human and whos job is to regulate another lifes or System of lifes. (another point in here i have to mention, that humans was intented to be rulers of angels, by the bible,once we ready, and by assumption this spiked the revolution as it would happen in human world if someones job or positions are taken away by immigrants or someone they feel to be lower, newer, the ones not set up the hard work they are used to and identify them self as the work , the reason why they are; the angels. i canassume and understand why they would be uppset and make last strike, as one or another way they saw it as the end to them self, ... as AI would behave so who are developed some kind of feelings or need to self preservation... from there on they use some hacked, inflatrated humans minds and hears to do what they them self are not capabale of, .. and something like that, this force, they would call the opposite of Creator ))

(continnuing about atheists)
or why there is genetically someone who can only know So, up to some point
... i mean, when i wonder about if somoene like that is also right i also have to have pre thinked the reasons from my point of view why someone else Is also right, and this is what i lay'd out, a bit long perhaps, just so you do not have to assume elementary, and if some thought does come, can skip this, "have you thought of this" part... so Your time would not be in vain. )

So yes, not sure in what side You are.
but just by feeling of it, that was needed.

(as i belive what comes from me to someone Perhaps, most likelly, is needed to them, or From them to me, my self.
(or to someone who reads later,)

as this what i write to them, is (perhaps also) education to my self to evolve, to step on... so one way or another, and as i have to consider always the last option, that
IS needed for me and it is gift for me if Someone Allows it to happen, ( with good feling in the end, )
like spending portion of their life (life, that they can use for anything in a world,) spending
it to MY life, even if it is hour of thinking or reading... this is something i am elementary way thankful,
even if there is not a agreement.
or even not understanding.
(then again, i Do assume this is more benefitial then a part ordinary daily news reading or lissening, )

Just wanted to say That, also, as i am thankful for You keeping this communicaton channel open for me, i know really well how not easy is to read my texts for many reasons
, even to skim it.
not that skimming would do i assume...

(and also, how uncomfortable at times is to read in facebook, long texts)

And from Your life age, it is respect in another level for me,
not that you would be anyone who is looking words of graditude, but just felt i had to add that here as well, )

Thank You Clark!

Man, that would be even more harsh reallity, and saeer jet, if there is not

(and i totally say it non religiousway, but as gut feeling way, that there must be the ones who looking us, and feel sorry what we have done and feel a blame for it)

sorry for to much text,
i just like to send complete packets of idea, in a way, that i hope that it can not be understood wrong way

but all "attacks" have to be personalized or eventually to many toes are stepped who just appeared to be under same label but working method was anything but effective for them as their reasons was different..

"if explenation will take away a pain, ... then this is bad thing"

just one Jew told,

and i agree.

so even "opponents" pain have to be hurting for the "correcter"

if not.. then this correcter needs to be corrected.

Is it possible to manage this kind of global action ? I generally trust humans, in god

but yes, yong and old for sure ,all, but in what order,
old first or yong first,

this is for my kind of OSD people is important at times to get some extra advice..

to be sure to get all what is possible as perfect as possible,

in that sense, is old ones respect the ones who come directly to them, or will come to them after they are in tune with local youth.

i just asume, there is more wisdom in older, so not to get contaminated nby the new ideas..

(besides, yong will stay here for long..)

But just thought, is there some kind of "old wisdom" what you know, that Yong first must master and commute with their ovn kind,
then move on..

have not heard but just as my thinkng is parallel many ways just in case for ideas what the best is not jet figured out from selection that can be.

--

Oh..
i really write a bit to much ,words,
for You to read from this uncomfortable device.

in today's world people write like less then 500 caracters at time usually.

--
About what i am looking for,
is total order and guidence of what is better

implementing this with intelligent and random activism ,
self correcting system (focusing original aims, my aims are to get all knowladge in safe way to a humans, ... meaning needed information that some people need first before they get another info that with out moral guidence can be used bad.
Assume it can not be complete fault free, but as long no one directly wishes to make bad, then small faults are not a failure , specially as to keep SELF correctin on place, meaning, more then anything, controll and correct self and Your own kind first, means controll the controllers and repair the reoairers to make sure, all is done in most best way, that is most pleasing and benefitial to the ones who are lowest level or furthest opposite but remebering to keep most lovable most near to your heart first, starting with a mother, wife, children
... nature, godliness (including animal love), goodness ... meaning puing wish to do good ower wishing to make pain or revane ... so the "network" ... the "order" what i wish to initiate, will cooperate wit all who seem to say they want also better or good,
but they have to with each other co operate, ask, what better method can be done to the ones who seem to deserve less. Always basic. Not that there must be an option to make no force. This i learned fast by being criminal guardian for one lovable kid, ... sometimes youn need to hold someone, down, so they will not hurt others or them self. But it has to be done, with no desire to do so, with no feelings of pleasure or joy, but with extreme calm care, and ..
.. and to not end up as system.. human man to man connection, human to human talk, and explenation, have to be integrated to any punishment...

(i plan to implement that on highest level, to for example initiate politicians re-growing with a force who seems to need it, at times.. but this at later times, ... i just feel this jas to be done at times, .. and as much for the ones who do it, so they remeber, that they are real, and they do real work, and they stand for what they know is good and will be taking steps outside of their comfort zone, for others good) )

Seems that to much on danger of totalitarian, fanatic, dangerous?
OR will be, with right (kind of) pre guidence, possible to make it so, that it will not have results that come out from SPE (Stanford prison experiment ) or Milgram experiment..
I am sure, there is way's to be forceful in good way,
(not sure how good that works thought..)

(just there is this hidden forced way between people all levels, so many ways.. and not in good reasons.. and then i think is proper to sand for a force for a directly good reasonsin a good way )

i also like hes talk "relgion is bad for you"

i am more in direction of the traditional, as at least they got some borders and frame work in where they can explain and express from start to end.

This rabbi i send, he laso made a project, to connect hippies and hasid jews... "connect the beards" or something..

and beginning first words in this talk.. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0HTebYu0dw

.. and remeber, they are considered by other yews as ultra ortodox..

Disregard the call. Accident.

You missed a video chat with Clark.

I am 71, so I think talking o people around my age or older is a good idea. Why not do both? People your age and people older. It depends what you are looking for. I avoid all traditional religions, especially those that are mor extreme in beliefs and practice. I like traditional yoga meditation. It us all individual, all up to the person, not a priest

a bit over long comment, if You can hande that would be good, for me : )

perhaps need to hook up with this guy as well in isreal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlGL2s2w9g (well known activist)

(cannabis thing seems generally be on High rise in there www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-marijuana-cannabis-decriminalise-decriminalize-legalise-weed-personal-use-jerusalem-a7547396.html // http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2016/12/1000-pounds-of-weed-is-sailing-for-tel-aviv )

// articles just for skimming //

But then again my deeper shamanic plans and godly aims might get to much grass smell from oldies guts,
with who i really want to get on talkng,

someones like Rabbi Manis would be good to spot on first,
to fit me in (he looks simple like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye6vwDN1J7E (Real American idol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgsG9xwLII ) )

But they are called Ultra Ortodox, but in positive way in my eyes.

So yeah.. wonder to go to look oldies first, even if that happens ending up to a wrong people or get .. get in to unpredictable issues...
or to look local Youth's and link up with them and help them to fit me in, to send me to right roads...

Some way i feel i should look oldies first and then get back to Youth..

just seems a little bit like sellout thing to do in Youth point of view i assume, but maybe not.

How You, as in Your are, imagining, Yourself to be this Jew in there (not the relgios one, but the one who is Jew in cure, .. true nationalistic god knower, or something like that )

how would you look some outside country, no backround guy.. is it kind of suckup thing to do to look up oldies first, or is it smart thing to connect with "own kind" first and then come to next step ?

No, yelling usually doesn't help

and this does not help me at all

and this makes me proper frustruated, as if i start to yellthen i look as crazy one

Haha

people even not bother to insult or yell proper

I hope so, as everyone just run's away here or will play libral kind of soft and just ignore you

Be careful! They play very rough.

well, lucky i was born year before

and then explaining,that nearly all of their, "left vs right" is.. the scisofrenic communist, Orwellian 1984

(in isreal)

original plan was to get there, as i am,
looking like from year "long before"
take perhaps a bottle of lucy with me and go to rabi to rabbbi ansking ,, what is going on and why they allow communist to take ower

just for a show of it,

But would like to get my visit to Isreal when i am stil l33

True True,
If I figure out the transportation i will

I don't think Robert is going. Are you going? There are so many conferences it's hard to keep track of them.

I sent to him as well, invite

Robert Forte

Is Robert going?

np,
clad there was use : )

I have several friends going. I am mostly retired from the field. Thanks for the link to the book.

Stay Colorful"

Greetings Clark,

Perhaps You interested to go or some of your folks

http://psychedelicscience.org/conference/community-forums/ayahuasca-researchers-meeting-ayahuasca-science-in-the-xxist-century

This is first time anyone from our Estonia conservative, and top of that, soviet supressed society, from academic sircle is making event like that
(culture, where communists managed to make people belive that Fly Ageric is poison mushrom and systematically eliminated all Shamanism on 1/3 of globe, good book also about it: The Shaman's Coat: A Native History of Siberia ( https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/dp/0802713998 ) )

(Event is in California, April 19-24, 450 dollars, 250 if millitary / student)

What is best cure for that?
And the AI we can not blame so much as computer perhaps was not designed to have feelings but correct answers only, based on input.

They manipulate the feelings and emotions both, with propaganda, fear, and lies. But yes, they mostly use emotions to control people.

They have no feeling

but i heard that emotion and feeling is not the same

that emotion is a control
they use, that comes outside in to us

and feeling is something that is true, that comes from heart to outside

i see

Very selfish people

People with no empathy can't be reached on an emotional level. They can't feel the pain of others, and they don't care what happens to others.

How You mean exactly?

This presents a rather intractable problem.

There are many people in positions of power who are incapable of feeling empathy because of the way their brains are structured. This has been proven in fairly recent brain research. And of course there are many more like this who are not in positions of authority.

this seem to be deep illness, like over 2500 years already

(Y)

The whole world is insane. This is one more example of insanity.

"Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, also told a meeting of his EU colleagues that if Greece was forced out of the euro "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists”

"If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too.” Told Defence minister

EU is threaten by communist Greek-Roman mafia, on name of defense and foreign minister and "right wing" major political heads by genetic genocide, and what we do?
We keep them as a part of Euro Zone..
As a friend, who has say, how we should live.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html

How is that possible.
What You say about that?