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and they also know, that this play is in the end. in final minutes (years)

i guess, people then need to give them, some saviors, let's make some, in some country religion eye everything in here is play anyway, the great act.
The bad play the bad and the good think they play the part of good. And some pay so hard, or with so much passion that one forgets that its play, so it comes out naturally, perfectly, as it should in Great Act

damn, this is good point again

"someone will always sort it out"

people have been made to believe, through film adn tv largely, that there will always be a "hero", a "saviour", so its ok to sit back and let the bad things happen

as a people, what savior they are waiting for. Is this speed good or should we make more progress faster, more openly

people long time got nailed for coming out with new ideas,
From other hand, everyone that contributed to the idea that made us more stuck in fantasy, that material world is the basis of "sane mind" and "it's more real then unreal" - they in the way deserved to get stoned some might think. But now when information is out there, tools known... i do not know what are we waiting for

any new

well, and one other human basic side in history has been a fear of the new

same with google. its such a simple tool that people dont realise the size of its influence - "something simple cannot have complicated feedback", or something similar

facebook is hailed as a great liberator of human freedom, so for someone to work hard at improving its function they will think they are only doing good

i think that excuses are fed to us through teh media constantly that people dont think that their actions have consequences, or that those consequences are going to improve society when in fact they are not. Or, quite simply, they dont have enough information to understand what it is theya re doing.

i would love to meet them, who say they know, i really would. I would have so much to learn from them

and sometimes people just do not know better, how many of them who work for this you think, really know what they are doing and for who, why , and what impact it has to us with in 50 years?

join what?

whicn medias are not controlled? even the internet is littered with people who pretend to be giving good information, when in fact its MISinformation.

(the moral thing would be easy to understand like this - the lack of morals is the lack of understanding the story. The Story )

do you wanna join?

i just hope i can give last bit from me to what is needed.

the uncontroleld ones need to be hand walked and explained what to do.
In that sense, i love the control we have right now, it's about as perfect as one can be, including the corrupted ones.
Newer have had anyone SO many options to make so big changes in the direction of good,
To beat the current bad with bad - well, its also possible, many times, but not as many times as in to direction of good

well, but what about medias that are not controlled? They are a bit more difficult to take on as the ones that are controlled, - their working ways and system we can map more easily

But as we know, the media is controlled and dont want to improve moral stature in the community :) That would cause the people to ask questions.

(phone)

well, about the moral question

so people can have options better reachable about alternative point of views

" Morals have typically been more obvious in children's literature, sometimes even being introduced with the phrase: "The moral of the story is …". Such explicit techniques have grown increasingly out of fashion in modern storytelling, and are now usually only included for ironic purposes. "
is that strange or what, i think many adults lacking on understanding morels, and now when it's needed it's played out only as irony.
The New media would in my oppinion be more effective on delivering message if they include moral section on every article, besides 'fact' & connecting story's from other side of the issue

one second, i will take look for second from wikipedia what they say about morals :P

so you dont think someone can know morals and also not be moral themselves? Im not sure.

as one with morals knows (might know) what is lack of morals, one with lack of morals has hard time understanding the true reasons behind morals, if one would know it inside - one will be turned inside out

i would just ad to this sentence "at first"

yes, sure haha

this is actually the best sentence i have heard for long time,
"having no morals gives you a huge advantage " - can i quote you on that? :P

if not hired, then silenced.

but I agree that technology has good and bad sides, but unfortunately that same technology will always fall into the hands of the bad people, and the most intelligent people that create these technologies will always be hired (by money or fear) to work with the bad people. having no morals gives you a huge advantage :)

same here : )

no thats ok, i might take a while to respond sometimes because im at work :)

srry, i just pored out my mind to read it my self :D

the invisible plain with unheard of tecnolagy they show in national geographics... this plane is developed between 1940-1960 they forget to emphasise
how much of the 90's top tecnolagy we are awere of, and we all know how extremly biger leaps every fallowing year in tecnolagy will bring. To even fantasy about privacy and rights and 'my own thing against all the otherpowers' - needles to say, it's fantasy that your email will not be readed (if needed) if you chnage ur 20 caracter password once a day : )
they even state on their privacy that they will keep at least half a year all of ur data what you delete & remove. and it's fine - as long people understand it, so there will be no reason to ge paranoyd :P

millintary in the sence of how far the tecnolagy has gone, people , some people develop some most extreme and unheard things under pressure, and fear is best pressure, if you mix it up with patriotism and something "really important" ... well, wonderful products might come out...
unfortuantelly many of the products are to much one minded and in shadows

but i do not think humans are anymore so lazy that we need to therat of final world war to make things work, really work,
i hope i am right in here .P

but what would we be withe out google, microsft, millitary, apple & some influential linux people

yup, ive heard that. it makes a lot of sense. the military also

for sure they do, and many other, far more sofisiticated tools.
You know, it's logical that with curent trends, many tecnolagys are far used, 10' years maybe before it reach a public as a feature

yeh you're right. did you ever use Google Realtime? That was a great tool to see how information was "trending", but sadly google removed it. I assume they still use it themselves as a marketing aid.

we just need some greative people, some investors, some action and then keep the action up, more and more and more, media in the end will sale what brings in, and we can change this , what brings in

well, marketing has many more aims and we can greate new ones, use their sofisticated tools and psycological studies and tests they have been done in last 100 some years, and Use it, with style.
Not so hard consept but most people always see marketing as evil... well, it might be thought out by someone as somthing to get suckers or control sheeps, it might have been used for that, it might have been destroied many homes and cultures and fuck up a lot of stuff... but this does not mean it can not be used for good

but you are right, if they were used to increase peoples mood in a positive way then it would be good

(kus näed laita - mine ja aita)

lol, these thigns will never be used for good in the end. marketing has one aim - to sell, no matter whether the buyer wants it or not.

and as we have in estonia sayng.. "where you see something to complain - there you go and help"

well, you know, in the way it's okey - if they would use this tecnolagy for good, as it can be used.
But then it needs to be transparent.

well, actually it is, as we can see that most of the companys & corporations have offices in same location and are started by same Angel investors
hopefully they are good angels :P

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haha

as of now they have impression that i need to barrow money, fight with zombies and play some good stratagy game

i know that there has been a MASSIVE increase in direct marketing adds. i look at something on amazon adn every page after is offering me the same item.

hmm, its very possible

yeah, these smileys, i wonder if fb also collects the smiles one uses in chats to present this data to market people / gow as some valuable data about person possible realaty channel and current mood (u know, one is happy, lets how them this kind of adds, depressed? Well, here is anti depressent ad's, etc) :P

lol, attack of the smileys

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