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"Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, also told a meeting of his EU colleagues that if Greece was forced out of the euro "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists”

"If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too.” Told Defence minister

EU is threaten by communist Greek-Roman mafia, on name of defense and foreign minister and "right wing" major political heads by genetic genocide, and what we do?
We keep them as a part of Euro Zone..
As a friend, who has say, how we should live.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html

How is that possible.
What You say about that?

Good, this cleared up situations a bit more from few corners

But actually our talks have newer come across to any bad references about the family, chooses not to talk lots... but all mentions have been proud and the wife..


but yes, some kind of healing, anyway.

So, the bottom line is, we have all tried to be loving and patient towards Antti, but we all have families of our own, jobs and other concerns of our own, and sometimes it has seemed that Antti would need full-time pampering. Which is impossible. And he really, really would need therapy – perhaps not the kind of therapy you "suggested", but some kind of treatment, anyway.

Yes, you really got me, Margus.

Your diagnosis is partly right: the love of Antti's family members is not as unconditional and infinite as love should be.

However, I'm afraid my brother Antti has refused to accept the KIND OF love and KIND OF help that he needs.

Believe me, we have tried to offer him help, but sometimes also difficult choices have been necessary – as when his ex-wife and I called the police in order to stop him from driving HER car (recreational vehicle) half-blind to the port and across to Estonia. And when he finally had to be kicked out of my father's house (nowadays run by the foundation that lets apartments to artists, with five residents a.t.m.), after loitering there for a few months, not doing anything reasonable to better his situation, and behaving outrageously (pissing in the yard, for example, making noise with guests at night outdoors, etc. etc.). Just to mention a couple of examples. His version might be different.

I got very angry, more than a year ago, at his stupid and unjust attitude and behaviour towards his ex-wife, who is, as far as I can tell, a decent and loving person. His version of Pirkko is probably totally different.

He has also behaved very badly towards his daughters, I'm afraid. And rest assured, they do love him and have tried to help him the best they can; that is, at least, how I have seen the situation.

I am not quite sure that it's a question of the social situation in Finland, either, that has "forced" him to flee abroad. He was offered help for his alcoholism, but he chose not to try hard enough, as far as I know. And I think he's not the kind of person who is willing to take hlep from authorities (the social security system, for example), either; he's used to being a "self-made man", I guess.

estonians.. or how is this word in english, me here just learning english, well, not so good any more for remebering new words, as there is not so much people to talk in english, everyday
but its kind of cool that antti famly can speak :)

if to look at him, but we really weel, thats how he has been threated, meaning, we - as Estonialivers

But the main diagnoses we made here is that the reason is the total lack and love from family members

but seriously , thought now, he always changes hes story how much finland pays him a pension,
so i newer knnow should i like leave him to sreet for bunishment, as he has drinked of hes money or should i feel bad as the social situation in findland is so bad for human beings that they are driven out from there, in to estonia, wpuld that be a good story or what, or what you think ?

(: antti told me long about your family, and that hes taugher is psyciatrist etc,

LOL, got you!

NO. You will not apply your kind of therapy on Antti or there may be legal consequences. Forget about it.

http://www.squidoo.com/psychedelic-therapy there is also many links talking about different topics, many pretty good

In case you do not know , how we could get recourse for this.. can you give me some feedback on that at least, as i am really passionate about it among other things,

was thinking about Anttis mind , would not want him to have setting as we would hospitalize him , as its so so much greater, more pure and good - and any paranoid or ego related thought can just harder the process.

Will all happen in woods

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_therapy
Unlike other psychoactive drugs, such as stimulants and opioids, these drugs do not merely amplify familiar states of mind, but rather induce experiences that are qualitatively different from those of ordinary consciousness. These experiences are often compared to non-ordinary forms of consciousness such as trance, meditation, and dreams.
L. E. Hollister's criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic is:
in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
addictive craving should be absent.


http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2010/12/07/healing-thyself-does-psychedelic-therapy-exploit-the-placebo-effect/
(bdw the gov made tests was made way wrong, in bad setting, but the ones made in good setting had highest and fastest success rate of any other method besides religion i guess, but even that has been not working for all.. )

(just in case you happen to came across psy..)
http://www.maps.org/wwpe_vid/

Treatment of alcohol with psy:
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/hoffer.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/05/psychedelic-therapy-war-on-drugs

- and the one other trick is... he mind should know know that its some kind of thing that will remove alcohol from hes list... as when he hes thoughts like that while drugs start to work then it might actually interfare with the process it seems, all the needed thoughts will come hes mind anyway, in right order.

People on my own family have been accessing it a little, and with good results, unfortunately have not have had resources to help all the people around me, my self - have not take sip of alcohol for long time. Even leave sugar and TV, porn addiction and turn other things in my life more healthy.
Only problem it is for the system people that it removes the meaning of doing meaningless work, people turn to creativity, writing, fixing past errors etc - but as he has no work in the system, no danger there.

So what you think, would it be possible to make it ?
The ordinary literature is full of so so much of wrong ˇfactsˇ about these tools, so be careful when making research. (in case you have not made it, it shocked me first to find out...)

Would love to make this kind of service for other people also, finances are main problem, as the tools actually do not cost much at all if they would be legal, but in current situations to get right things from right people.. i rather pay more then to look around in streets.

To buy it in larger amounts, the price can drop per person, 3-4 session - like to the price of beer (or even partly free), but this is all future, near future :)

Greetings again : )

wel. actually wanted to thank you for nice reply and newer get so far to send the answer - as it was to long with to many ideas, narrowed it down to some basics now. Actually so much else has happened, but the main thing.. is still same, the broken heart.

Actually, I would really really want to try one special kind of therapy on him, have been trying to explain / mention this to him but he newer has anymore resources for that, most likely as he does some silly things with cash..

anyway, to make it short we need 150 euros to make it true and secure, the therapy is short, 3x 2 days or less. Will do it my self as there is not facilities like that in here.
There is also Chance of complete realization but will not promise anything besides that it will benefit him, but he needs a little bit co-operate - like being sober few days (and he would as i can see by now not pay from hes pension something that is considered as health or treatment).
Kind of sucks to talk about my friend like that, also behind back - but hey, he will know all about it soon enough anyway. Unless your really want to keep it private for some reason, then let me know.

Would be my personal joy to help him, as there is so much good in him but unfortunately the alcohol thing is not easy to break when its in cooperation with strong depression, ego problems and some other minor mistakes that should all go away once bigger obsessions is removed.

Will take some links also from google to get you in touch with it, in a way you seem like you would know all that already : ), but will send it anyway

In Estonian, see link.

The right thing to do is probably to contact the Finnish Embassy in Tallinn, or the Consulate to be more exact: konsulaatti.tal@formin.fi, +372-6103 200

Tere Margus,

thanks for your message! And for your concern for Antti, my big brother.

I am worried about him. I'm afraid he has become mentally rather unstable lately, after his break-up and divorce over a year ago – if not earlier. There seems to be not that much we, his brothers and sisters and other relatives, can do, because it seems to me he stubbornly refuses to acknowledge his problems...

Unfortunately, I have not been very helpful to him, but more or less gave up trying to help, after I realized he rather runs away (to Sri Lanka, to Estonia, for example) than tries to get things sorted.

The odd behavior is something new, anyway. Would you like to tell me a bit more about it?

Here's my phone number, just in case you need to contact me urgently, or if you'd rather phone me:

+358 44 568 5902

Thanks again, I really appreciate it that you contacted me!

Pajari

Greetings from Estonia!

I am wondering, is Antti your brother as he told me ? I had hes sister phone number also somewhere but with in time i can be in contact with you, i guess, you seem like nice fellow :)

Anyway, i am just wondering is odd, really odd behavior common with antti ? Does he have any mental history or did he lost someone close in resent times ?

Margus