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anyone who says otherwise have no looked real data, or does not understand the situation why ones music is not going out...
https://www.google.ee/search?client=opera&rls=et&q=pirates+OR+illegal+music+OR+film+OR+movies+revenue+OR+buy&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

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and 1000 people, who have downloaded 10 000 songs, for SURE has been contributed to artists way more then 1000 other people, who have not downloaded free music

there is so many studies made about it, its even not debatable anymore, or is it =

i pretty much will see, that can make this movie a bit sensation, with appropriate small team,

but i cant help, at all basically if its viable only for money, as none of the big ideas work when people get stuck behind a wallet, the circle of life does not work with it.. and this is special kind of movie.. so it needs special kind of promotion...

Problem is... that so many music makers and others, do not understand how to make money by sharing things free,
as some comments say - first time in history , its possible to become sensation, to make a lot of money and to record music SO CHEAP, to share it so cheap and to be known with days around the world - if right buttons are pressed..

and hey - there is always gendres that do not generate money, and there is always kind of fans who do not ever have money to buy it, but they will share it, with 100, or 1000 friends, for free - if they like it, and if only 10% of them, share it with their friends... who ever got it free first, will surely contributed a lot to the movie

piracy is helping , A LOT

have been living last year almoust with no money, at all, got food for donation...

well, would love to come but i even have no money for public transportation

i can make camaping for you

but with tools that have been prooved to work

a lots

Yes, and we can help..

talk to you later

I have to go work now

http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/letter-to-emily-white-at-npr-all-songs-considered/

here's a recent article about piracy in the meantime

I know it would change your mind

I urge you

come here and see

to help

so it is up to people like you

lets come .. make al one skype meeting, with other artists and makers of the movie.. and lets talk about it al togheter

or business

they are being supported by the government

they need support

to some of the best voices for the future

and it is happening right now

it is that simple

if people don't pay for art there are no jobs for artists

and this is the reason, artists need to fight with tools they have, like this movie - as of now.. u falling in to the trap the movie is talking about

artists are forced into office jobs

it is very sad what is going on

you should come here and meet more people

it is

and film companies in Hollywood are shrinking by the day

it is working stephan

the government in our country does not support arts at all

no, unfortunately that's not how it works

for sure : )

people who see the movie, want to hire people liek that, and company like that who made it

but they will... as theyr names, its like anwertisment for their portfolio

I have many struggling friends in music who deal with the same issues

that has not been the case with other media

if people can get it for free then more will buy it?

I don't follow why?

as people will ove it

the animators, artists, composers all have not been paid their fair share yet

well, my idea is, that when u share it around the world,
you will sale even a more, not losing anything

not much

and month before this ?

but the first one, is already made... and how much, do yu sale it, i mean, what was last moth sales?

still

we have to pay people for making it

then how do we repay our costs for making the movie?

(not that i am so conservative to not work with people to who i have failed to explain my thoughts and why its good to support open source consepts : p )

would that be.. an idea to talk about, ?

But seriously... then we should let the movie, the first one, to free public domain, as i have some regulations for cooperation - like people should kind of support the open source consepts etc

some suggestions would be great!

you want i look some people for you ?

quatiom field, physics field, religious field, psychdellic field, shamanic field.. there is many fields who have speakers, but as i am my own philsopher mostly as of now, have not payd attention to the names

look forward to hearing more from you next week!

thanks margus

cool, that'd be great

cant say any names of the head, but with short searshing time , few days research coudl come up with some apropriate names, and with in week, could get some answers and ideas going around from this people

do you have any philosophers or scientists you'd recommend?

that's a very cool idea

that what my energy was centered before, wanted to build a communty of the movie... then build it bigger, add extra values to the next movie, and inventing ways with communty how to promote it,

like looking the philosphy of the film (have to tune in my slef in to that channel to fully talk about it, but will talk breafly..) and then looking the real life things around... and adding some interviews from real life philsophers and scietists to the end of movie, or to the portal, communty, around the movie

hey, workless isn't worthless

so what do you mean by "connecting the dots"?

i know, says nothing in the end.. but same time, says a bit

actually i am workless, but working with anything that can help the world to become self aware about themselves

how so?

and some fanasy if we may

... what first movie needs, for most viwers.. perhaps is connecting the dots

Margus, what do you do for work?

we got the $$$, but mainly from the same friends and contacts, it never grew out

I did kickstarter for another project, it was so-so

it's interesting because we did receive mainstream press in the U.S., but beyond math teachers and enthusiasts for the book the interest has been only mediocre

are you at kickstarter also ?

so.. but good thing is, its still ike new, the first one, so... to make online campaing for that.. would boost the second movie sales by far, a lot

people have been blown away with the awesamness of this movie, the first one, the shorter one i have saw to some friends

like... how no one knows about it, in most parts of world, this is so strange for us, specialy with the easiness of online marketing

with the first movie... this should have been online sentsatsation (how ever this word is written) - as what it says, when played right, is so far out and .. anyone who i have sawn it... has been like HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOU IT?

what's up?

healthy one

well. Steph... steph.. can i make critisism ? : )

ooh..

you can see a preview here: www.spherelandthemovie.com

but the movie is looking fantastic!

and work sidejobs to pay off the debts

we never got any funding for the movie, so we have to pay of it with our own personal credit cards

working very hard now to finish "Flatland 2: Sphereland"

and have been good mean time, going great vit other movies, etc ? : )

sure!

are you stil lawailable online , for talking about that some time ?

we newer was able to talk about flatland movie

Hey : )

But most of all - fb mailbox i will take look most often
Private meil can be sent to margus@abok.net as well

But if some things will not go as i think they can go then i will be not avalable as of lack of resources for some time

Greetings Seth,

Clad you reach me! I will be in internet - at least few days more.

We can chat/call by Skype: Waffad
Or call +372 53518240 - but sms before call, as i rarely accept phone calls latelly.


Was i in contact with you also from yt/vimeo?

Hi Margus,

This is Seth Caplan, producer of "Flatland: The Movie". We need to talk. Please let me know how best to reach you. --Seth