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(or something like that, but this will give an idea of levls current earth people should be considered as ready and normal, calm. Travel between other worlds was common knowladge old times .. now it sounds like science fiction to some)

Great great, just know

We already know all how to be
But the aliens who invaded our species, do not know how to controll us, so they need to study and make legislatins and tests, this is basics (there is many types of aliens and spirits that have break door open in to this world.. and they use human body to make crime )

But I will continue this conversation with pleasure in other moment.

And my friend, I must go to dinner, I have people waiting for me.

Need? No, is not a question of need.

or lao tzu students, tibetian monks or native amazonians ?

like You think Native americans or latin american shamans need some lecures about human behavor ?

Yeah, "southerns" also.

we have thought about ALL about hman behavor and ethics long time ago,

Wow, that's interesting.

literally

i mean, that this is alien to us

What do you mean?

as prper northen people do not bullshit about ethics and behavor as we have thought that one out thousands of years ago

but how do you know if you speak with a Northen person or Anty Northen perosn who lives in northen ?

The carreer of Philosophy is almost focused on ethics and social behavior.

In the University of Vilnius, for example.

My point is, for now I think that in "norden" culture in general, there's most preocupation for ethics.

good one still

Well it was an example.

yes but hippie is not really as much of a culture as a knowledge,

We are going very fast. XD

I mean...

Yeah, of course, and rigth now anybody is a "member" of just one culture, I can be spanish and also, for example be a "member" of hippie culture and the same time a kind of hipster culture or wharever.

and in the end result, it is different who will be kept on the earth and who will not be, by the God
(higher spirits)

the values are different, the lookng of issues nad probelms are diffferent, solutions are different

and if you are hunter then your thinkng about value of life, is different , hten farmer who grows plants

something liek tha... so it is part of culture also after a time, as there is hunters culture and vegetarians culture

I agree

like some country , france, russia, some others, look their part of culture, as they are invaders in a world who with force will make others as tehy want

of course

well but all is these thing connected, innit ?

My point is not, right now directing on history, just in the experience of that comunication.

No, i'm not talking on that sense. My point is moore intuitive, But this year I speak with a lot of "norden" people, and there's always that "something" that makes comunication really hard and also interestning.

or is the nature loving part of culture?

like was the war part of culture ?

(no blame on you, but on the contects of spanish invading and messing up Philipine culture and .. well the other invasions (that i think are fomr greek-romans actually, but hey.... whatever that) )

So tell me, what is spanish culture

And of course, the frontier means shit.

No, Stonian - spanish.

Sumerians? Hebrews? Grek-Romans? Asia ? Africa some triebe, native americans ?

An with that, I mean national culture, in that specific case, betwen you and me, south and nord.

whos culture?

Yeah, I understand your point, but you know I think that the fundamental core of our discussion, and that's dangerous to say, (but honesty I'm starting to think this in my stage of live) it's Culture.

and when one is prositute then any one with a random energy can come and messup her wellbeing
and then if she lowes... the other man... she would not want to bring this bad energy to him..

also not really benefitial

as alchol is not really possible to keep humans in a love proper
it is a fact

Don't worry.^^

(i am a bit raw today, but my intention is stil lgood)

you should love ANYWAY whatever the other one is or does, this is elementary
but you should work in it, to make other one better
specially yourself, for the other

but if they would realy know what love is, then they would drop to be a drunker and prositute,
man would do that,
and would start great life togheder

a few dosages of LSD would have helped them there easy
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BUt yes i know what you talk about, this wersion of love that they had is just a basic normal love that all humans had between them self, live yourself and let other live,
this is minimum normal standard not high goal
just most humans are below any kind of measurment on the scale of love

And the negation of that, is what it cause the problem of comunication.

And that moment it can be shorter or larger, but at the end that's the reality of every relationship.

The beauty of that relation is that no one can expect to change the other, and then is when they really get close, not as a couple, just as two persons sharing a brief moment of his life.

and, (tell me more, about movie)

Is the love between a prostitute and a drunk man ho want's to kill himself drinking, litteraly.

There's a film, called, Leving las Vegas, where there's the expression of that love that I'm talking about.

The example of smoking is quite good actually.

Yeah, but in your example there's already a hierachy in the moral sense. That's the problem for me, that love that I describe It should be of mutual acceptance, but that doesn't mean passivity.

same with smoking

not caring if it is rigth or wrong

as these kind of huspands will say "if you love me you do that.." kind of things

if coupple is in merriage
and huspand realllly likes anl sex
and wife does not like it as naturally normal people do not

what should she do, according to your love teachings, accept a man and let him degrade her ?

No, is not based on ignorance, I'm not talking about blind acceptance.

mimimum at least once you should corect everyone you can (even for the sake of reciving back information why they are right and you wrong)

becouse acceptanse of wrong and ignoring it , caring to little to change, does not help the love but makes it fall a part

Why not the opposite attitude? I think that the expression of true love is accepting the path of the other. An I don't mean to follow him, I mean acceptance even of his changes, somway, the co-existence knowing that there's always a wall betwen.

But i like your coution : )

""Everybody want's control in his more deep inner self, everybody wants adoration instead of love,"

No am sure everyone wants love in deep inner self

If you love persons, you tell them how to be and expect, trust them to do same for you (not letting you suffer in wrong way of living)

It's that your line? Because the use of your expresions, but at the same time they can be dangerous, so If we want talk, that's a good point to start, I thinks that's even crucial.

You know, that thing of: "Everybody want's control in his more deep inner self, everybody wants adoration instead of love, and so on.

I mean, qhen you say you expect of me to do the same, I think inmediatly in the honest expousure of the intentions of power and domination.

Well, then my expectation are absolutely wrong. But I don't think that is necesary your reading about the inner intentions of our posible propositions. If I understand properly what do you mean by "saying how think and what to do".

i expect you to do same, if you do know.
Or if it is part of ur philosophy to do so

for sure i do

Well, It's quite nice asking questions, I expect that you don't say to me how I must Think or act.

(this is what i do on my life right now, am asking questions from people and tell them what to do and how to think )

But tell me more,
about what have you thought out so far, why you lear what you learn and what are your most radical thoughts that if you would have magic wand you would initiate ?

It's an implicit of that "Hey"

And I'm asking of course, what ar you doing, where the road take's you.

You know, so my empty ei it has some sort of reason I think, or at least justification. XD

So, the other day you tell me something, you ask me where the road take's me, and I was like, "Hey" let's gonna return to that day and go on frome there.

And, the latest interest in philosophy is politics, of course in the universal treatment. Not for dedication, just, at the moment as contemplation or a space for the analysis of the present.

I'm exactly still studyn philosophy, maybe writing sometimes. Lastly in very kind of puting myself in a new and forgotten situations, recovering some sense of humanity and stuff.

Ok, ok, I will Try my best, but I don't promise anythyng.

my self working still on word renuing

lol
do not just write "hey margus" and then ait

as it is not information for me, what that "hey margus" means ? There is no information in what you do, wanna do, about what you dream or what you want to know..

better aswer all that in one message, as long as possible

yes?

Hey Margus

Good!

Ei man, I'm going to sleep now. But It's gonna be nice to share some histories soon.

How have ya been wizard, how has been road and where has she take you ?